On February 28, 2023, Rep. John Ragan presented House Bill 1385 to the 
House Criminal Justice Subcommittee.  The objective of the bill was set 
forth in a single 4 line paragraph – it was to establish a statutory 
definition of the ambiguous phrase found in Tennessee Code Annotated § 
39-17-1307(a)(1) (and other places) – “with intent to go armed”.   The 
proposed amendment would define the term as meaning “carrying or wearing
 a weapon with premeditation and forethought to commit an infamous crime
 and does not include inadvertent or unintentional intrusion into an 
area where such weapon is not permitted.”
Elizabeth Stroecker, a 
taxpayer paid attorney in the Tennessee Department of Safety, 
testified 
in opposition to the bill.   Ms. Stroecker opposed the bill on the 
grounds that the amendment would eliminate the ability of law 
enforcement to stop or charge people for carrying a firearm unless the 
officer could show a reasonable grounds to believe that the person was 
carrying with the intent to commit a crime. 
Patrick Powell 
spoke for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. He objected because the 
amendment would make it hard for law enforcement to stop someone who 
might be carrying a firearm unless the officer could prove that the 
person was going to commit a crime.
A representative also 
spoke 
on behalf of the Tennessee Sheriffs Association and the Tennessee 
Association of Chiefs of Police.  He stated on behalf of his clients 
that they also opposed the bill because the amendment would require the 
law enforcement officers to be able to show that the individual had an 
intent to a commit a crime rather than merely being in possession of a 
firearm before they could be stopped. 
Chairman Bud Hulsey spoke 
in favor the bill.  He felt that there was a constitutional right to 
carry a firearm and that the offense should only exist if there was an 
intent to commit a crime. 
The testimony of these individuals, 
two of whom are paid by taxpayers to represent Bill Lee’s 
administration, shows clearly that they and his administration are 
opposing a change in the law that would lead to the result that a) it is
 not a crime for a person to carry a firearm in public with the intent 
to go armed but b) it is a crime for someone to use a firearm to commit a
 violent crime. 
There are a couple of problems with this situation. 
First, the United States Supreme Court’s opinion in 
New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen has held that a state cannot constitutionally prohibit a citizen from carrying a firearm in public.  While 
Bruen
 did recognize that there might be permissible restrictions such as on 
carrying in a “sensitive place”, which the Court at this point has not 
resolved in a specific holding.  What the Court made clear is that a 
state is constitutionally prohibited from doing what Tennessee does, 
that is, making it a crime for anyone to carry a firearm anywhere absent
 a showing by the state that the issue is one that was subjection to the
 national historical tradition of regulation as of 1791.  Thus, under 
Bruen Tennessee’s “intent to go armed” clause is unconstitutional under the 2nd and 14th Amendments. 
Second, there is a problem which 
Rep. Chris Todd addressed in a committee hearing just a week ago in a discussion with Ms. Stroecker concerning House bill 1005
 – that is the question of what constitutional or statutory authority do
 taxpayer funded individuals from the administrative have to show up in 
the legislative branch to lecture elected legislators on what the 
administration thinks public policy should be.  These taxpayer funded 
employees of the administration may or may not take a oath of office to 
defend the constitution – but their boss, Governor Bill Lee does.   How 
and why are these individuals and his administration – all of whom are 
in the executive branch of government – showing up to lecture 
legislators on what the administration thinks that a separate branch of 
government – the legislature – should or should not do as public policy.
   Further, where do these taxpayer funded administrative employees have
 the authority to lecture the legislature in a manner suggesting that 
they knowingly and intentionally disregard a Supreme Court decision?
TFA members should reach out and thank 
Rep. John Ragan and 
Rep. Bud Hulsey for taking this path and at least attempting to bring Tennessee’s statutes into compliance with the Supreme Court’s 
Bruen ruling.  TFA members should also consider reaching out to 
Governor Bill Lee to discuss why his administration’s representatives are openly opposing their constitutional rights.
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