Subject: Grand Illusion, Bob Writes In, Newsbusted, Giveaways, Who the Hell are you?


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Bob writes in .....


Hey Guys,

I got this in my email from Michael Holder (The Business Junction Newsletter). It's very interesting regarding Greedy Giveaway:


We posted an article on November 27th relating to dishonest giveaway distributors and have received feedback from 71
readers. And 68 agreed with us while 3 disagreed. We could care less about 2 of those that disagreed because they are
giveaway administrators that felt that our article would damage the integrity (???) of giveaways.


Were they serious? The only people doing real harm to giveaways are the dishonest administrators. And the only way the arrogant and/or dishonest administrators are going to listen to contributors is if their actions are exposed.

We didn't do anything to harm giveaways and 96% of the feedback agreed with us.

So I would suggest that giveaway administrators listen up (just the dishonest ones) and stop whining like a bunch of 3-year-olds. Develop some morals or get out of the business altogether.

And to take this a step further I would ask readers to consider the fact that if certain giveaway administrators are not operating giveaways honestly these are also marketers that you should not purchase anything from.

Following is the original posting:

Keeping Them 'HONEST'! (If That Is Possible)

To put it bluntly, "It appears that a lot of people got screwed in Greedy Giveaway 6"!

And before I continue I want to be clear to everyonee that I did use the helpdesk to contact Jason James regarding serious discrepancies in stats.

And Jason closed the ticket without responding!

So does that mean that Jason James has now joined an ever-growing list of dishonest giveaway administrators?

I won't go that far (yet) until he has had the opportunity to respond in detail as to why a lot of contributors had gifts deleted while continuing to display gifts by Cecille
Luciano that hadn't even upgraded and generated zero referrals.

Jason, would you care to explain that?

And why did another contributor (PE) that wasn't even listed on the leader board have his gifts displayed while several other contributors did not have their gifts

Jason, would you care to explain?

It would seem logical that the following 5 contributors should have had their gifts displayed when you consider the aforementioned contributors were less qualified to deserve the exposure.

* Corey Lewis generated 1 referral but didn't have a gift displayed.

* Dee Adams generated 7 referrals & paid for the upgrade but didn't have a gift displayed.

* Michael Holder generated 14 referrals & paid for the upgrade but didn't have a gift displayed.

* Paul Counts generated 54 referrals & paid for the upgrade but did not have a gift displayed.

* Sam Honcho generated 16 referrals but did not have a gift displayed.

Jason, does that seem logical to you?

Jason, would you care to explain?

And the 5 contributors who appear to be more qualified compared to many others that had their gifts displayed might
represent just the tip of the iceberg because we have no way to access the stats of other contributors but hundreds may have been denied exposure when compared to some that did receive exposure.

Were you one of them?

We would certainly like to hear from you if you referred even 1 referral and were denied exposure.

If you are reading this and contributed and had your gift removed my suggestion is that you request a refund through
PayPal. And demand the refund even if you had zero referrals. After all, Cecille Luciano had zero referrals and her gift was displayed!

And if you are reading this and know of a "Greedy Giveaway 6" contributor that did not have their gift displayed please forward this information to them.

Jason! This is the this type of giveaway that is giving all giveaways a bad name.

And if are unable to respond with a logical explanation I would certainly expect an honest administrator (are you?) to
issue full refunds to everyone that upgraded and did not get the same exposure as Cecille Luciano.

Update: It should not come as a surprise to anyone that as of November 29th I still have not received any explanation from Jason James. He might be assuming that the well-deserved negative exposure can't do much damage because his giveaway is almost over. But I'll keep watching
for your next fiasco and warnings will be sent to subscribers before you open the door.

Note: All readers have my permission to use this article in your newsletter, website, etc. The only way giveaways will improve is if we keep the administrators honest. Yeah, I know that is almost unimaginable. But if contributors refuse to participate in giveaways that are either poorly
administered or use unethical tactics they will either clean up their acts or disappear altogether. And those giveaways that remain will give you better exposure with much less effort and outlay of funds."

Just thought you might like to see this.






Bob we cannot independently confirm what Michael Holder had written and claims, but we believe it is certainly possible and factual.


Most people know from our monthly events and our reputation we are hell on fraud which is possibly the very reason we do not get the "5000" members that some others claim they get.


Unfortunately many of the Event Hosts do not care and want to live and spread the illusion making new people feel awful and that they failed - when in fact the Host failed but lives and wants to live in the illusion of Grandeur ..... reminds me of a song by Styx titled the "The Grand Illusion" ------------------------------------------------->




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The Grand Illusion

Written by Dennis DeYoung
Lead Vocals by Dennis DeYoung

Welcome to the Grand illusion
Come on in and see what's happening
Pay the price, get your tickets for the show
The stage is set, the band starts playing
Suddenly your heart is pounding
Wishing secretly you were a star.

But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are

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The Euro Game Is Up! Just who the hell do you think you are?  
European Parliament, Strasbourg - 24 November 2010

Speaker: Nigel Farage MEP, UKIP, Co-President of the EFD group;

Debate: European Council and Commission statements - Conclusions of the European Council meeting on economic governance (28-29 October)


Good morning, Mr Van Rompuy,

You've been in office for one year and in that time the whole edifice is beginning to crumble, there's chaos, the money's running out - I should thank you; you should perhaps be the pin-up boy of the Euroskeptic movement.

But just look around this chamber, this morning. Just look at these faces. Look at the fear. Look at the anger. Poor old Barroso here looks like he's seen a ghost.

They're beginning to understand that the game is up and yet in their desperation to preserve their dream, they want to remove any remaining traces of democracy from the system. And it's pretty clear that none of you have learnt anything.

When you yourself, Mr Van Rompuy, say that the euro has brought us stability. I suppose I could applaud you for having a sense of humor, but isn't this, really, just the bunker mentality?

Your fanaticism is out in the open. You talked about the fact that it was a lie to believe that the nation state could exist in the 21st Century globalized world. Well, that may be true in the case of Belgium, who haven't had a government for six months, but for the rest of us, right across every member state in this Union - and perhaps this is why we see the fear in the faces - increasingly people are saying, 'We don't want that flag. We don't want the anthem. We don't want this political class. We want the whole thing consigned to the dust bin of history.'

And we had the Greek tragedy earlier on this year, and now we have this situation in Ireland. Now I know that the stupidity and greed of Irish politicians has a lot to do with this. They should never ever have joined the euro. They suffered with low interest rates, a false boom and a massive bust.

But look at your response to them. What they're being told, as their government is collapsing, is that it would be inappropriate for them to have a general election. In fact Commissioner Rehn here said they had to agree their budget first before they'd be allowed to have a general election.

Just who the hell do you think you people are?

You are very very dangerous people, indeed. Your obsession with creating this Euro state means that you're happy to destroy democracy. You appear to be happy for millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions must suffer so that your Euro dream can continue.

Well it won't work. Because it's Portugal next, with their debt levels of 325% of GDP, they're the next ones on the list, and after that I suspect it will be Spain. And the bailout for Spain would be seven times the size of Ireland's and at that moment all of the bailout money has gone - there won't be anymore.

But it is even more serious than economics. Because if you rob people of their identity. If you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the Euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens.
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